Which means she wants us to do what she wants.
"Mrs. Clinton said in an interview with The Dallas Morning News that she would like to see bans on assault weapons and the end of loopholes that allow weapons to be sold at gun shows without required background checks."
How is bowing to her wishes to ban competition rifles and interfering in lawful commerce by banning private transactions of personal goods "a meeting of the minds?" Tie it together with a ban on private sales of used cars and maybe I'll consider it. Remember, cars kill.
The full story at the Dallas Morning News.
05 March 2008
Hillary Wants 'Meeting of Minds' On Gun Laws
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C'mon Brent, do you really not see the difference between used cars and guns?
One doesn't need to skip the car dealer in favor of a car show in order to evade an unfavorable background check.
If you are against all background checks, I can respect that. However, I don't understand a position that advocates/accepts background checks for gun shops, but doesn't accept closing the most blatant loophole in the history of loopholes.
I can see not inhibiting true private to private sales, but aren't gun show vendors predominately gun dealers? I admit I don't know, I haven't been to a gun show in probably 10 years. The last one I went to at Franklin County Fairgrounds years ago was a disgusting place - dirty, dark, and too full of scary militia/nazi dudes - talk about poster boys for gun control.
Let's face it certain unrestrained gun "enthusiasts" are not the best face for advancing pro-gun rights.
A- Thanks for writing. There is an enormous difference between dealers and just regular folks. And between firearms and cars.
The guy who owns a gun shop and comes in and rents tables, yes he conducts a background check on buyers because as an FFL he must. But not every table is even selling firearms. There are books, surplus, first aid equipment, art dealers, etc. who set up shop in such a show. The people whom you are concerned about are rarely people who rent and set up tables at a show. The people you are impacting by saying "no private sales" are the grandmother who brings in a handgun that was her husband's. He has died and she wants to sell it to get rid of it. The people you are impacting by such a move are the woman who does not have a lot of cash, but perhaps had a long gun that was her grandfather's, and she wants to trade it for a handgun to provide protection for herself and her children.
As for cars vs. firearms, it is even easier to understand. Cars kill. But there is no background check on buying a car.
There are also people who set up at gun shows who are collectors...who come in with no plans to sell anything, but someone who also collects (much like art collectors) makes them an offer they can't refuse.
Got it - thanks for clearing that up. I was of the impression that small time dealers (not the Vance's of the world) could/would set up a table at a show and circumvent BR checks.
I fully concede that it wasn't an impression based on much!
As for cars v. guns - I still question whether those types of talking points really get anybody anywhere.
Cars aren't BUILT to kill, guns are (don't play semantics here, of COURSE they are!). One could kill with a rusty spoon if patient enough. Besides, if you want guns treated like cars, are you prepared for license and registration, and vision and proficiency demonstrations before the state lets you shoot?
I always fear that failing to acknowledge that guns are a different creature altogether from steak knives, cars, and other potentially dangerous tools, makes those already leaning toward gun control turn off even more. Being perceived as flippant towards the gravity of arming oneself is counterproductive. (btw, I know you take gun safety very seriously, it's a perception thing when you sarcastically talk about cars killing, or bats, etc. - I really do get your point, and I know you are most often preaching to the choir, not convincing someone anti-gun)
Anyway - I see things very much as you do, but I always think of how the other side views things - especially when I'm goofing off for a few minutes at work!
Keep up the great work!
A- Actually, the dealer you mentione does not do gun shows. Views it as competition. As for the purpose of firearms, I would suggest to you that they are designed to push a projectile at a high rate of speed out of a barrel. How firearms are actually used is another thing entirely. My firearm has never been pointed at another human being, it has not been fired at another human being, nor has it ever been discharged at another human being. Now, in a self defense situation, could I and would I? It depends on the situation. But while my firearm has never been discharged toward a human, it has helped cull large numbers of the paper target herd.
Thanks for the note. And the kind words. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on some matters.
As for adding registration and vision tests to gun ownership, bring it on. But only if guns are truly treated like cars. Won't it be great to have a gun store on every street corner -- just like oil change shops??? And to have ammunition sold in general goods stores next to replacement mud flaps, rearview mirrors and Turtle Wax? ;)
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